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Old 05/11/2017, 02:50 PM   #351
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hi,

I'm using Component 1+2+3 and I notest that the color of the component 1 (also in the jerrycan) is not clear but is lite yellow ! is it normal ? unfortunatelly my dKH is not stable in the last period and I think that the problem mightbe the degradation of this component ! what do you think ?


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Old 05/11/2017, 05:36 PM   #352
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I think it's the trace elements that are yellowish. I know mine are.

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Old 05/11/2017, 05:39 PM   #353
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hi,

I'm using Component 1+2+3 and I notest that the color of the component 1 (also in the jerrycan) is not clear but is lite yellow ! is it normal ? unfortunatelly my dKH is not stable in the last period and I think that the problem mightbe the degradation of this component ! what do you think ?


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The discoloration in component +1 is normal. This is iron precipitate. This is not an issue and if you want you can shake or stir your dosing container every few days.

It's hard to say why your DKH isn't stable. Are you dosing the components in equal amounts??

What are your current values of

Ca?

Alk?

Mag?

Po4?

No3?

Ph?




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Old 05/12/2017, 11:42 AM   #354
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The discoloration in component +1 is normal. This is iron precipitate. This is not an issue and if you want you can shake or stir your dosing container every few days.

It's hard to say why your DKH isn't stable. Are you dosing the components in equal amounts??

What are your current values of

Ca?

Alk?

Mag?

Po4?

No3?

Ph?




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Yes I'm dosing in the equal amounts ! Following the current values!

Ca - 450
dKH - usually 7
Mag - 1350
PO4 - 0,008
NO3 - 0
PH 8,10


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Old 05/12/2017, 05:40 PM   #355
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Yes I'm dosing in the equal amounts ! Following the current values!

Ca - 450
dKH - usually 7
Mag - 1350
PO4 - 0,008
NO3 - 0
PH 8,10


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When you say your Alkalinity isn't stable how much fluctuation are you seeing. I noticed you posted it's usually 7.

For that level of Alkalinity your calcium should be around 410ppm.

Looks like you need some NO3. Absolute zero isn't good. Most folks find success at 2-5ppm nitrate. Mag is good.

Of course all of this is my opinion.

Here is a great article to help.

http://reefkeeping.com/issues/2004-05/rhf/

Are you manually dosing or using a dosing pump?

If your using a pump when was the last time it was calibrated?

What test kit are you using for your Alkalinity?


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Old 05/13/2017, 12:03 AM   #356
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When you say your Alkalinity isn't stable how much fluctuation are you seeing. I noticed you posted it's usually 7.

For that level of Alkalinity your calcium should be around 410ppm.

Looks like you need some NO3. Absolute zero isn't good. Most folks find success at 2-5ppm nitrate. Mag is good.

Of course all of this is my opinion.

Here is a great article to help.

http://reefkeeping.com/issues/2004-05/rhf/

Are you manually dosing or using a dosing pump?

If your using a pump when was the last time it was calibrated?

What test kit are you using for your Alkalinity?


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- dKH usually is 7 but some days is also 5,9 (like 3 days ago)

- yes I know... and is my intention to arrive to 410 for Ca... but how ?

- NO3 I had always 0 from the beginning

- I'm dosing with 3 pumps that I check avery 30 days

- Test dKH... I use the Hanna photometer and salifert (always with same result)




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Old 05/13/2017, 01:15 AM   #357
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Aquaforest products- Component 1+2+3+

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- dKH usually is 7 but some days is also 5,9 (like 3 days ago)

- yes I know... and is my intention to arrive to 410 for Ca... but how ?

- NO3 I had always 0 from the beginning

- I'm dosing with 3 pumps that I check avery 30 days

- Test dKH... I use the Hanna photometer and salifert (always with same result)




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Do you know what your daily consumption of Alkalinity is? What you need to do is get your Alkalinity up to a comfortable zone then stop dosing it. Each day at the same time of day test your Alkalinity. It will drop..... do this for a few days to see what your daily consumption is. Then you'll need to dose your system back up to where you want it. No more than 1dkh per 24 hour period when bringing it back up. Then you'll turn your doser back on and see if you are meeting the demand. If it's still falling then you need to increase your dosing pump to match the consumption. If it rises then you'll need to turn down your pump and dose less.

What you want to do is get that Alkalinity stable first. Then you'll end up matching your dosing according to that.


It looks like you may have overdosed the elements to start. So I would completely concentrate on your Alkalinity. The calcium will naturally fall. You need to get that Alk dialed in first.



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Old 05/16/2017, 12:40 AM   #358
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Okay guys.....Im still keeping my ALK stable at 8dkh with a separate ALK buffer but only dosing 20ml per day on a 400ltr system of 1, 2 and 3...My Strontium levels are 0-3, Iodate/Iodine .03 and potassium 390ppm......
My Magnesium is 1440 still but my Calcium is around 420 ish any tips on getting this Mag down or can I knock up/ get the recipe for component 1 so I can make without the MG and dose a decent percentage again. Rgrds Miles


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Old 05/16/2017, 07:39 PM   #359
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Yes I believe your going to let the mag drop naturally if you'd like although I don't see a problem with where it's at.


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Old 05/16/2017, 07:45 PM   #360
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There is a video on YouTube called Aquaforest Mix your own components 1+, 2+, 3+. This will help

Here is the base recipe for making 1 liter of each.




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Old 05/17/2017, 01:29 AM   #361
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Thank you 120 Reefer.

So the Strontium dose states 1 drop per 100ltrs per day.
Also states 15 drops = 1 ppm of strontium per 100ltrs.
So in a 400ltr tank 15 drops would raise my Strontium by 0.25ppm?
Is this acceptable to do daily?

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Old 05/17/2017, 04:52 AM   #362
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Thank you 120 Reefer.

So the Strontium dose states 1 drop per 100ltrs per day.
Also states 15 drops = 1 ppm of strontium per 100ltrs.
So in a 400ltr tank 15 drops would raise my Strontium by 0.25ppm?
Is this acceptable to do daily?

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Do you have a strontium test kit?? I always test what I dose. I'd suggest getting one and testing your levels, then dose, then test etc....

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Old 05/17/2017, 11:04 AM   #363
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Yes....my Strontium measured 0-3ppm
Iodine .03
Potassium 390ppm

Hence the need to dose!

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Old 05/19/2017, 03:42 PM   #364
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There is a video on YouTube called Aquaforest Mix your own components 1+, 2+, 3+. This will help

Here is the base recipe for making 1 liter of each.




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So how much CA PLUS do I use....is it a dose of 175ml per litre as the dose is 10ml = 10ppm in 100lts?
The Calcium dry version is 50g (10g = 35ppm in 100ltrs so total 175ppm per 1tr)

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Old 05/19/2017, 04:02 PM   #365
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So how much CA PLUS do I use....is it a dose of 175ml per litre as the dose is 10ml = 10ppm in 100lts?

The Calcium dry version is 50g (10g = 35ppm in 100ltrs so total 175ppm per 1tr)



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If you read the information about the CA plus product it gives you specific directions on how much you can dose daily to raise your levels.



http://aquaforest.eu/en/product/ca-plus/

So this amount also depends on the volume of water you have in your system. This is also covered in the information.

Here is the info for the dry calcium.

http://aquaforest.eu/en/product/calcium/



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Old 05/19/2017, 11:46 PM   #366
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If you read the information about the CA plus product it gives you specific directions on how much you can dose daily to raise your levels.



http://aquaforest.eu/en/product/ca-plus/

So this amount also depends on the volume of water you have in your system. This is also covered in the information.

Here is the info for the dry calcium.

http://aquaforest.eu/en/product/calcium/



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Sorry not to dose manually.... to make up component 1.... there is no mention calcium plus is not mentioned anywhere that it can be used to make the mixture. Although I believe calcium plus is the same as AF calcium just in liquid form and in a different concentration?? Cheers Miles


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Old 05/20/2017, 04:55 AM   #367
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Sorry not to dose manually.... to make up component 1.... there is no mention calcium plus is not mentioned anywhere that it can be used to make the mixture. Although I believe calcium plus is the same as AF calcium just in liquid form and in a different concentration?? Cheers Miles


It appears that the CA product is made for adjustments alone. I personally have not used this product. That being said I would use that product as intended although it might be perfectly fine to substitute.... to be honest I'm not sure.

I would just use it for adjustments and mix up your own components 1,2,3 following the base recipe or the video on mixing your own.


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Old 06/02/2017, 06:08 AM   #368
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I want to ask you something

My tank is approximetly 30gallons with sump

I have mostly soft corals. And 2-3 pieces lps corals. Bubble coral, frogspawn coral and favia. I dont have any sps coral.

I had been used two part additives of reeflowers before, adviced quantities.

Now, i have bought af component 1-2-3

I have started to use 10ml x3 times per day for starting.

I had been observed for 2weeks. Water parameters are constant. (kh-ca-mg)

So, I think my low intensity live stock dont need that dosing periods.

Im thinking about dosing 10ml per day every component, because of low consumption.

Why im thinking that, money save

Sorry for my english. İm glad to reach you directly. Thank you.


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I want to ask you something

My tank is approximetly 30gallons with sump

I have mostly soft corals. And 2-3 pieces lps corals. Bubble coral, frogspawn coral and favia. I dont have any sps coral.

I had been used two part additives of reeflowers before, adviced quantities.

Now, i have bought af component 1-2-3

I have started to use 10ml x3 times per day for starting.

I had been observed for 2weeks. Water parameters are constant. (kh-ca-mg)

So, I think my low intensity live stock dont need that dosing periods.

Im thinking about dosing 10ml per day every component, because of low consumption.

Why im thinking that, money save

Sorry for my english. İm glad to reach you directly. Thank you.
Correct. If consumption is low also dosage should be in small amount. If your consumption is really low maybe you can dose Ca Plus or Mg Plus or KH Plus only?
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Old 06/02/2017, 07:04 AM   #370
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Correct. If consumption is low also dosage should be in small amount. If your consumption is really low maybe you can dose Ca Plus or Mg Plus or KH Plus only?
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Thank you for your comment.

I have learned something like that if only one part kh or ca dosing one time causes ionic unbalanced situation. So every time i made same time kh-ca-mg which i use two part or three part balling solution.

If you say its suitable to dose one part, i will try.

So i need to ask, after that overdose for ca or mg, why don't increase to dangeorus levels?

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Is it neccessary to add additional microelement together with c1,2,3? Will it cause stress to coral and resulted in rtn or stn?

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Is it neccessary to add additional microelement together with c1,2,3? Will it cause stress to coral and resulted in rtn or stn?

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Component1+2+3+ contains microelements that's why there is no need to add more micro.


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Old 06/15/2017, 06:07 PM   #373
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Aquaforest Newbie

I've been reading all these posts about Aquaforest and I've now been convinced by other aquarists to try making up my own components 123 . My aquarium perimeters are as folllows . Calcium 450 , Magnesium 1350 , Kh 9.5 . They have been stable like this for the last 2 month using RedSea Foundation Powder products . But I've been convinced to try Aquaforest because of the price . I've been dosing manually but I now have a Kamoer 4 Channel Wifi Dosing Unit and 5 litre containers .
I'm making up as follows ...
Container 1 Aquaforest Calcium 250g , Aquaforest Mag 50g , Aquaforest Component A Strong 25mls + Components B Strong 25ml .
Container 2 Aquaforest Kh 400g and Aquaforest Component C Strong 25mls . Container 3 Aquaforest Reef Mineral Salt 125g and Aquaforest Component K 25mls .
My aquarium is (After Displacement) 800 litres . Any idea as to what I should be dosing in equal quantities ? I've been told to start with 50mls daily and recheck after 24hours and reassess.
Any help will be fully appreciated.

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I have a medium stocked 90 gallon and pushing 190 ml each a day. When things start to take off it doesn't matter how large your tank is. It is all about consumption


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I have a medium stocked 90 gallon and pushing 190 ml each a day. When things start to take off it doesn't matter how large your tank is. It is all about consumption






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